Aug 10, 2009 at 11:30 am #1238462
@skopeoLocale: British Columbia
…Aug 10, 2009 at 12:06 pm #1519860
Thanks for a great comparitive report.
I'm 6'0". In my really puffy 15F degree bag, I'm fine in my Seedhouse 1 SL, but it seems like if the tent were any shorter that I might be compressing the down around my feet.
Did you try out the Fly Creek with a really puffy bag? Did you experience any down compression around your feet?Aug 10, 2009 at 1:59 pm #1519876
hey man that's a great comparison! i would love to see more of that in the future. would've been extremely helpful when i was picking out my shelter and sleepgin bagAug 10, 2009 at 2:58 pm #1519891
It would be nice if BPL.com did one as well….;)Aug 10, 2009 at 4:36 pm #1519910
> Jim – I don't think you could put enough pressure on the head or foot of the tent to cause the bag to lose it's insulating properties… maybe if you were 6' 6".
Great, good to know. I was just speculating because my Seedhouse SL1 doesn't have a lot of room to spare down at the foot when I use my 15F Phantom which is really puffy.
I really like my S'house SL1, but I might have checked out the Fly Creek if it had been available at the time I made the purchase.Aug 10, 2009 at 5:06 pm #1519919
thanks for the comparo- the fly ck is on my short list for a solo tent
I'm 6' so I shouldn't have any problems w/ length
your impression of the vestibule- I see the MSR Reflex has almost double the vestibule (9.5 vs 5.5 for the Fly Ck)- maybe that's overkill for a average size pack and boots?
it comes w/ 11 stakes, how many in your opinion are really needed (I'm assuming some are for guy lines)?
thanksAug 10, 2009 at 5:43 pm #1519925
A big vestibule is nice. The thing about the MSR is that one can have gear in the vestibule and still enter and exit at will from the tent. If the Carbon Reflex were cheaper it would be more of a direct competitor to the the Fly Creek.Aug 10, 2009 at 6:23 pm #1519936
Assuming that the Fly Creek operates along the lines of the SH SL1 (which I believe it does), you can generally leave out two of the stakes except in very windy weather.
Door/end of vestibule: two, one on each side.
Front end of tent: two, one on each side.
Middle of tent: two, one on each side.
Rear of tent: three, one on each side, and another at the the point of the very end of the tent.
Stakes to guy out the front of the tent.Aug 11, 2009 at 7:06 am #1520031
please! i'd really like to see owners of multiple shelters do this. perhaps throw them all into a seperate forum section. i really wish i had those views when buying my 1st couple of tents…
again, i'd like to see the same thing done w/ sleeping bags/quiltsSep 12, 2009 at 5:35 pm #1527220
I have used the Seedhouse SL1 for my entire PCT Thru-hike this summer and I have found that you really only need 6 stakes:
2 for back side corners, 2 for mid-side guylines, 2 for front vestibule corners.
Staking the back center corner is redundant with two other stakes so close buy. Ditto for the front corners of the tent if the vestibule is staked. I have been in some strong winds numerous times, I would guess 40+ mph, and nights of continuous rain in Oregon. I would think that six stakes would also be enough for the Fly Creek and the original seedhouse 1 (not SL).
I haven't used the Fly Creek UL1, but I am thinking of switching to it to shed some weight for future trips. I am only 5'6", so I am not too worried about the slightly smaller size. I am wondering if anybody has had condensation issues with the added non-mesh sides or if the ventilation is still adequate with the fly on? And also, if anybody has used both the Seedhouse SL1 and the Fly Creek UL1, is the Fly Creek any warmer due to the higher non-mesh side-walls? This could be a bonus for shoulder season.Sep 14, 2009 at 8:40 am #1527461
>> Bender <<Participant
Mike I just wanted to thank you for posting the side by side comparison of these BA tents! I just purchased a Fly Creek but have been a little worried about the size. I'm 6'1" and quite skinny so I just barely fit length wise. Since the tent is wide enough I am also able to fit my High Sierra Summit 45 bag on its side next to my sleeping pad. I have only set the tent up indoors using weights in place of stakes. It looks a little wider in your pictures so I think I'm going to be quite happy with it. In about a week I'll be using this in the Smokey Mountains!
I like numbers so here are the actual specs:
Tent with fly, body, poles, all bags, and 9 stakes weighs 2 pounds 3.6oz on my digital scale. You can add about an ounce for 2 extra stakes and the guy lines which are also included. BA lists this packed at 19" Long but if you fold the poles correctly its only 17.5". I can fit the tent nicely in the outer mesh pocket of my Camel Back MULE full with 100oz water!Sep 14, 2009 at 11:47 am #1527504
that's 2 lbs 3 oz correct?Sep 14, 2009 at 12:19 pm #1527517
>> Bender <<Participant
Yes that was a typo the actual weight as listed is 2 pounds 3.6oz.Apr 10, 2011 at 1:51 pm #1722819
Mike, Just wanted to thank you for posting this comparison, I've been trying to decide between the two myself.Apr 10, 2011 at 4:47 pm #1722906
@kevperroLocale: Washington State
The Fly Creek UL2 is about the same weight as the Seedhouse UL1. Much more space too but an extra $100 retail. The extra fabric does seem like it would help with cool breezes and if cost isn't an issue the UL2 looks worth the marginal 4-5 oz. weight penalty over the UL1.Apr 10, 2011 at 9:49 pm #1723038
@thefatboyLocale: St. Louis
The Fly Creek UL2 is on my "gee I wish I was rich" list (right behind the Mont Bell SS Hugger #1). At 2lb 2oz (plus 2 ounces worth of titanium stakes & triptease), it's barely any heavier than a tarp/bivy/head net combo and would be close to palatial as a solo tent.
Some day…Apr 11, 2011 at 9:24 am #1723137
@kevperroLocale: Washington State
They are all a trade-off. Any of them are an improvement over civilized living and waking up in my bedroom.Apr 12, 2011 at 1:02 am #1723498
@b-g-2-2Locale: Silicon Valley
I have one. It seems like a decent-enough tent for being so lightweight… as long as you are not tall. It is not big inside.
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