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  • #1235665
    Ali e
    Member

    @barefootnavigator

    Locale: Outside

    I am trying to put together my gear for the summer and have added some weight but still sifting through it. I know its not SUL but I am wondering how It stacks.

    Pack
    Bag
    Tarp
    Pad

    Opsprey Varient 28 (1700) ci 2.6lbs I now its heavy but I wanted a good crosover climbing pack and for the extra pound I like the comfort and durability. I can leave the lid off to save about 8 ounces.

    Lafuma fastnlight 30 down 1.11 lbs doing a product review price/weight cost $99.00 new

    Sea to summit poncho tarp. 12 ounces, Again heavy but durable.

    Ridgerest trimmed to 16×40 6 ounces. Ive yet to find a pad that I sleep better on than this.

    Total big 3+1 5lbs 3 ounces
    I often go lighter than this but I was trying to get a no worries bombprood set up. I am planning quite a few off-trail trips and dont want to have to baby my gear.

    So now that I have gotten fat how do I stack up? I'm not looing for lighter suggestions although they are welcome, I'm just curious how I compare to the pro's here. Ali

    #1494931
    Jim MacDiarmid
    BPL Member

    @jrmacd

    (Edited to include pad)

    Gossamer Gear Gorilla (2800ci) – 22.75oz
    WM Summerlite – 19oz
    Pad – trimmed z-lite + GG sitlight (pack back pad) – 7.25
    TT Rainbow – 30

    Total=79 oz 4lbs, 15 oz

    I can remove the stays from the Gorilla and save another ~3.5oz if I want. I'm just not ready to go with a frameless backpack yet, but the Gorilla offers the chance to experiment with it. My shelter is my heavy item. I impulsively bought it on ebay a month ago, and have yet to use it, but am already considering ditching it for a tarp/bivy combo that could weigh half as much. I got a Oware Cattarp2 on the forums for a good price, and my first couple trips this spring, I'll probably bring it along and play around with it, having the rainbow there as my security blanket. I just want to learn site selection and pitching technique before I rely on a tarp as my only shelter.

    #1494932
    John Myers
    BPL Member

    @dallas

    Locale: North Texas

    Ali,
    I'm no pro and certainly not as light as many here, but my basic summer big 3 list is:

    ZPack Blast pack 7.5 oz
    Hennessey Hammock (modified) 25 oz
    MLD tarp 7 oz
    JRB quilt 23 oz
    GG insulating pad w/silk liner 9 oz

    4.5 lbs more or less.
    If taking the Golite Pinnacle pack, add a pound.
    If taking a tent (GG Squall Classic) instead, add another pound for the BA IAC pad.

    (what does the +1 refer to?)

    #1494933
    Ali e
    Member

    @barefootnavigator

    Locale: Outside

    The plus one is your sleeping pad. I was curious what people use and the weights. Ali

    #1494936
    cary bertoncini
    Spectator

    @cbert

    Locale: N. California

    most of my trips are weekend trips – this is what i usually use now for those trips

    Zpacks Blast 18 – (1800 cu in / 3.2 oz)

    Montbell alpine downhugger #5 or Nunatak Arc Ghost (each~18oz)

    BA insulated Airecore mummy (~21oz)

    MLD bug bivy or bivy and/or BL Nano-0 tarp (bivies ~6.5-8.5 oz, tarp ~4.5oz). Have often brought but seldom used the tarp.

    So total around 49-55 oz or so, roughly 3 – 3.5 lbs

    #1494937
    Bob Bankhead
    BPL Member

    @wandering_bob

    Locale: Oregon, USA

    NOTE THAT THESE WEIGHTS INCLUDE STUFF SACKS, TENT PEGS & LINES, ETC.; BASICALLY WHAT THE COMPLETE OBJECT WEIGHS AS IT GOES INTO THE PACK. Those little "extras" add up.

    Pack = SMD Traveler with hipbelt pockets and stays………….31 oz

    Bag = WM Hooded Aspen (aka Sycamore) with eVent compression sack…….38 oz

    Shelter: SMD Gatewood Cape/Serenity Net Tent combo…..20 oz with pegs and lines

    Subtotal = 89 oz = 5.6 pounds

    Pads: depends on which I take. If there's an over-abundance of sharp objects around (i.e. PCT desert sections), I leave the inflatable at home. If not, it goes.

    Desert: using Ridgerest 20×72 at 14 oz;
    total weight = 103 oz = 6.4 pounds

    Mountains: using BA Insulated Air Core 20×72 at 24 oz;
    total weight = 113 oz = 7.1 pounds

    #1494940
    John Myers
    BPL Member

    @dallas

    Locale: North Texas

    Ah, thanks. I always considered the pad part of the sleeping system. Especially since I can't sleep without one. :)

    #1494941
    Jay Wilkerson
    BPL Member

    @creachen

    Locale: East Bay

    GG- SpinnTwinn Tarp: 9.2 oz
    MLD- Serenity Shelter: 10 oz Total 19.2 oz

    MLD- Ark Backpack: 4,200 CI Total 18 oz

    Western Mountaineering Bag Total 18 oz
    Highlite

    Total 55.2 oz
    3.45 LBS

    With Pad:
    Prolite 4 3/4 Total 17 oz
    72.2 oz
    4.51 LBS

    This is a lot more stimulating then talking about guns or AIG

    #1494945
    Diane “Piper” Soini
    BPL Member

    @sbhikes

    Locale: Santa Barbara

    This is not a very scientific weight, but on my bathroom scale, it's 4lbs.

    I have (with manufacturer weights):
    Gossamer Gear G4 size sm (16 oz) (mine weighs more because there are some pockets and things added to it)
    – Golite ultra 20 quilt (16 oz)
    – Z-rest, 12 panels, cut to 19 inches wide with some sticky velcro holding it together where I stupidly cut it in half (weight??)
    8×10 tarp (14 oz) plus lines and stakes (weight??)

    #1494949
    Nate Meinzer
    Member

    @rezniem

    Locale: San Francisco

    BA Aircore 72" — 21oz (no stuffsack)
    SMD Gatewood Cape — 1oz (Fuzzy math…Cape 11oz-Raingear 10oz)
    REI Flash Women's — 21 oz (+35F)
    Jam2 — 17 oz (modified)

    Total — Fuzzy Math version: 60 oz (4 lbs 4 oz)
    Non-Fuzzy Math version 70 oz (4 lbs 14 oz)

    #1494952
    MIchael MacCormac
    Member

    @mmaccormaccomcast-net

    pack:Six Moon Designs Traveller 26 oz (with stays 31)
    tent: GG "the one" 17 oz plus 1 oz polycro grd cloth
    bag: Montbell SS#3 23 oz
    pad: Thermarest Prolite 4 short 17 oz
    total 84oz= 5.25 lbs (add 5 for stays)
    have not actually used this yet in the past i used a sd clip flashlight- great for the 90s but heavy by todays standards

    #1494954
    Dustin Fritterling
    Member

    @medylami

    Locale: Southeast

    GG Vapor Trail = 30 oz.
    TT Rainbow = 34 oz.
    Montbell SS #3 Long = 25 oz.
    Trimmed Z-lite = 12 oz.

    Total = 101 oz. = 6.3 lbs.

    Thanks guys for making me feel overweight. Jeez.

    #1494956
    D G
    Spectator

    @dang

    Locale: Pacific Northwet

    Pack: ULA Conduit 21 oz
    Bag: BPL (Nunatak) Arc X down quilt 16 oz
    Pad: Neo Air (R) 14 oz
    Shelter: Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo e 23 oz

    4 lbs 10 oz

    If I include my pillows (these are dedicated sleep system components) it adds 6 oz for a total weight of 5 lbs.

    #1494957
    Art Sandt
    Member

    @artsandt

    1
    pack – ULA Circuit 32oz
    shelter – MLD duomid 15oz
    bag – MB Super Stretch 15 degree bag (long) 39oz
    pad – Thermarest ridgerest "deluxe" 18oz

    2
    pack – Zpacks zilch with hipbelt 5oz
    shelter – solo cat tarp 8oz
    bag – Golite ultra 20 quilt 19oz (sometimes swap out for 40 degree synthetic quilt that weighs 14oz)
    pad – Gossamer Gear 3/8" ccf pad cut to 2/3-length 4.5oz (sometimes add in an inflatable Torsolite for another 8.7oz)

    Total weight of big 4 for set-up 1: 6.5 pounds
    Total weight of big 4 for set-up 2: 2.3 pounds

    I tend to use set-up 1 exclusively in spring and fall conditions, while I use set up 2 exclusively in the summer. Although the Montbell SS bag is quite a bit heavier than the Utra 20 quilt, it is WAY more comfortable than pretty much any bag I've ever used, so I don't mind a few extra ounces for the stretchability. Ditto for the Duomid. Yeah, it's a bit heavy, but it's a very cozy all-sides-protected shelter. Also, it's worth noting that I almost always use quilts with bivies. Especially in the summer, I tend to want a net-hooded, fully sealable bug bivy, which adds another 5 ounces to my "shelter" weight.

    #1494961
    Zack Karas
    BPL Member

    @iwillchopyouhotmail-com

    Locale: Lake Tahoe

    thru-hiker setup:
    pack: Golite Jam 16 oz modified
    bag: WM Pod 30 17oz
    tent: SMD Lunar Solo 24oz
    pad: Ridgerest 30" 5.5 oz
    total: 62.5oz or 3.9 lbs

    fastpack setup
    pack: Golite 24 19oz modified
    bag: Down pants and synthetic jacket 16oz
    tent: Bibler Winter Bivy 9oz
    pad: GG 1/8" 2oz
    total: 46oz or 2.9 lbs

    #1494962
    Richard Gless
    BPL Member

    @rgless

    Locale: San Francisco Bay Area

    For my UL "fanatic fringe" summer 2-3 day hikes:

    pack – Zpack Zilch – 4 oz
    bag – Nunatuk Arc Specialist 19 oz
    shelter – Gatewood Cape w pole and stakes 15.5 oz; SMD serenity net 7.5 oz
    pad – NeoAir short 9.5 oz

    Total – 56 oz – 3 lbs 8 oz or so

    This works well for me for the California Sierras with low temperatures down to about 40'F or so.

    #1494966
    Tad Englund
    BPL Member

    @bestbuilder

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Pack: GG "G5", 7.5 oz
    Tent: Gatewood Cape W/stakes and lines, 13.6 oz
    Bag: WM Megalite, 26 oz
    Pad: BA Clearview, 15 oz

    Total 62.1oz = 3.88 lbs

    Pack: Might use Jam2 add 13.9 oz
    Tent: for bugs, GG bug canopy add 3 oz
    Pad: for cold weather Theromrest Guide Lite add 19.5 oz
    Total 98.4 oz = 6.15 lb

    #1494967
    ben wood
    Member

    @benwood

    Locale: flatlands of MO

    pack – GG nimbus latitude – 50 oz.
    bag – REI sub kilo – 31 oz.
    shelter – tyvek tarp – 15 oz.
    pad z lite short – 11 oz.

    for a grand total of 107 oz. or 6.68 lbs.
    i know the pack is heavy, but i like it way too much.

    #1494969
    Jared Cook
    Member

    @rooinater

    Locale: Northwet

    MYOG Tarptent-for-2 – 26 oz

    Golite Jam2 – 21 oz

    NEOair small – 9.1 oz

    Golite Ultra20 Quilt 19.3 oz

    4lbs 11.2oz, by summer though for solo Hikes I'll have the solo tarp and bivy sewn, along with my golite ion modified to work with all my gear and food. So figure by summer I'll have dropped 20+ oz, my big 3 will weigh about 3lbs 7.4oz or less…

    Are you including the weight of your stakes and guylines in your shelter weight? Mine are all included in.

    #1494970
    Michael Davis
    Member

    @mad777

    Locale: South Florida

    Backpack: ULA Amp w/front & hip-belt pockets @ 14.6 oz

    Homemade synthetic quilt @ 13.1 oz + 2.5 oz dry bag = 15.6 oz

    POE Max Thermo 48"x20" synthetic insulated inflatable pad @ 15.0 oz + Montbell inflatable pillow @ 2.7 oz = 17.7 oz

    Tarptent Rainbow w/guy lines @ 32.6 oz + 3.2 oz silnylon ground cloth + 8 stakes & snubber @ 3.8 oz = 39.6 oz

    Grand Total 87.5 oz or 5.5 lbs and I'm very happy with my comfort to weight ratio … of course … I could get the small Neoair & save 6 oz … Oh no! Here I go!

    #1494971
    Scott Bentz
    BPL Member

    @scottbentz

    Locale: Southern California

    Pack-G Gear Mariposa Plus (older) … 20.0
    BMW Torsolite Sleep Pad… 10.0
    G Gear 1/8" Thinlight… 2.0
    Polycro Groundcloth… .3
    G Gear SpinnTwinn… 9.3
    Equinox Ultralight Bivy… 6.5
    Montbell SS UL #5 Sleeping Bag… 19.0

    Total … 67.1 oz. or 4.2 lbs.

    The only change I would make is whether or not to use my G Gear The One. If I do I will drop the Spinn Twinn and the bivy. I think that adds about 4 ounces or so.

    I am always amazed that even starting with a nice light base weight how much weight can creep up when you add water and food. I can't imagine packing anymore with the weights we used to carry.

    #1494978
    Art Sandt
    Member

    @artsandt

    ”Are you including the weight of your stakes and guylines in your shelter weight? Mine are all included in.”

    No because I figure we all know how much a set of stakes weigh.

    #1494979
    Jared Cook
    Member

    @rooinater

    Locale: Northwet

    but not everyone uses the same set of stakes or length/amount of guylines, and it is part of your shelter system. which means it should be a part of your carried shelter weight since your carrying them for the shelter and they are not consumable. The big 3 which is supposed to be your entire sleep system weight, entire pack weight, and entire shelter system weight. The +1 isn't really needed either because the sleep system is supposed to include your pad.

    #1494980
    Dan Cunningham
    Member

    @mn-backpacker

    Locale: Land of 12,000 Loons

    I'm one of the heavier people here. 90% of my backpacking is with my wife, so I don't own a solo shelter, which ends up nailing me for over a pound more than necessary. My pack is a little heavy also, but I love the comfort.

    Pack = Vapor Trail = 2 pounds 2 ounces
    Tent = Lunar Duo = 2 pounds 13 ounces (including all stakes, etc)
    Bag = WM MegaLite = 1 pound 10 ounces
    Pad = NeoAir = 14 ounces

    Total = 7 pounds 7 ounces

    #1494981
    te – wa
    BPL Member

    @mikeinfhaz

    Locale: Phoenix

    WARBONNET Blackbird complete: 22.2
    MacCat standard, spinnaker: 10.5
    down underquilt 35° + leg pad: 14.8
    top quilt 35°: 12.6
    ULA conduit w/ belt pocket: 18

    78.1 ounces

    these weights include ALL stakes, stuff sacks and other components.
    i also have a bridge diy hammock that weighs <13oz that sees much use. depends on my mood.

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