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@ben2worldLocale: So Cal
You've been reading too many gun and ammo magazines! :)
All I ask is that our dollar maintain its value for just a few more weeks — until I pay for my cruise (it's denominated in euros). Not too much to ask, right?
This thread belongs to Chaff.Apr 1, 2009 at 9:28 am #1490379
This is going to get ugly. Bad Ali! How long until someone comes along and says "ammo is the new currency"?Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 am #1490382
@naman919Locale: Richmond, Virginia
Ammo i$ the new currency!
(Chaff…)Apr 1, 2009 at 9:50 am #1490389
My gut says that one who is doing such a thing would not put it on the internet so lightly. Google for the win on finding you.Apr 1, 2009 at 9:54 am #1490391
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"I had to ask and I'm not joking. When I unloaded all my realestate at the peak of the market my friends and family thought I was insane. Then I dumped my entire stock portfolio and they almost had me commited. I didnt loose a penny and now all I hear is pain. Its my opinion that this is not the bottom or even near it. I worked in finance for years and saw this comming a mile away when all the big economic gurus were saying buy buy buy."
If only we could all be more like you, we'd all be living better.
It appears there's nothing you haven't mastered!Apr 1, 2009 at 10:18 am #1490403
As a volunteer Federal disaster medical responder (think Katrina), we always have our go bags packed and ready for deployment. That includes bag, pad, clothing, a couple days worth of food and water, and basic essentials. I have a 70 L. backpack that is nearly good-to-go as well (put the pad and bag in as I head out the door).
In addition, for home use during a disaster, I tend to stockpile freeze dried food, canister fuel, as well as 10 gallons of water in gallon jugs. The American Red Cross web site has a decent list of what every family should have in the basement in the event of a disaster. The first things to go during an earthquake, hurricane, or nuke attack are utilities, cell phones, and water–so plan for that, and have a battery powered short wave radio on hand, and plenty of batteries for all purposes.
And as a good ol' Montana boy, I have both a pistol and carbine that use .357 mags, and I have several boxes of ammo in a safe place. I also keep $1000 in various denominations locked up. Then there's the habit of keeping the 4Runner full of gas all the time. For my prescription drugs, I get a year's worth at a time, so that there's little chance of running out.
While none of this relates to lightweight anything, it ALL relates to being prepared. Like we do when we pack for a backpack trip.Apr 1, 2009 at 10:57 am #1490419
@bleanLocale: San Jose -- too far from Sierras
"I unloaded all my real estate at the peak of the market … I dumped my entire stock portfolio"
And you did not warn any of the rest of us??? Shame on you!Apr 1, 2009 at 10:58 am #1490420
I keep my ion packed with 5 days food in my car and with where ever I go. I used to have a pretty substantial commercail kit that was good for serveral weeks but began to wonder what would happen if my home wasnt the safest place to be. The UL sytme works very well and if mobility is an issue light would mean fast. I have experimented with many food systmes but good old freeze dryed seems to pack the most punch. If nothing ever comes at least I'm prepared and had fun doing it. If it does come I will be prepared. For the long term we have 5 full months of supplies in boat and that could get us half way around the world. Either way its fun to think about. AliApr 1, 2009 at 11:02 am #1490422
So is Ali the only person who forecasted the US markets correctly? Somebody call Jim Kramer!!!!!Apr 1, 2009 at 11:06 am #1490423
@maynard76Locale: New England
My bug out bag is a duffel full of Obama collector coins.
Its the only currency that will still be worth anything in the future.
Make sure you get the ones that are hand painted.
and a roll of duct tape, always have a roll of duct tape.Apr 1, 2009 at 11:11 am #1490426
Are the coins titanium?? I want some. AliApr 1, 2009 at 11:12 am #1490428
What I'm worried about is a darn Zombie attack. I always keep a baseball and and some running shoes in the car, just in case.
I hate to talk politics but I hike ccc made trails, sleep in ccc made campgrounds, and I've spent most of the best moments of life on Nationalised lands. Call me a socialist but I love it when collective money is spent on collective enjoyment. I think FDR was one of our greats and I think his ideas are relevant today.Apr 1, 2009 at 2:04 pm #1490482
@owareLocale: Steptoe Butte
Get a gun, then just find someone with a bug out bag
and no gun and forage. ;^)
That or borrow a Japanese Grandmother.
(see other chaff threads)Apr 1, 2009 at 4:55 pm #1490525
Could you please try to put Chaff threads in Chaff?"
Wherever Ali posts is, by definition, chaff. ;)Apr 1, 2009 at 4:59 pm #1490527
@bestbuilderLocale: Pacific Northwest
Ali, I have been trying to put together a 72 hour kit for over 20 years. I have never succeeded to have a full kit because of a number of issues:
1. I can’t figure out what kind of food to keep in it because it seems to expire all the time. It seems like every time I get it out something has expired (I’ve been at this for over 20 yrs.)
2. I don’t know where to store it-
a. In the basement- it might not be accessible if the house falls in on it.
b. In the garage- might get to cold or again the house could fall in on it
c. In the storage shed- mice would have a field day, or the shed might fall in on it.
d. In the car- one of the kids might be using it that day
e. I guess I should just wear it all the time? Do you see my problem with storage?
3. What kind of food do I put in it?
a. Expensive and space- I still have 5 kids at home that would make for 63 meals in my kit- or do I make 7 complete kits, and again where would I store the 7 kits?
b. Freeze dried is expensive and takes up space (see 3a above) and it expires
c. MYO- doesn’t have a long shelf life
d. MRE- see 3a above
4. How big of a pack should I have?
I could go on but the post would take an hour to write. I’m slowly working on a system of some kind. Right now I use:
1. Old 7 lb 6000 ci pack
2. MYO food that we rotate. I have the kids get their meal from this pack for current outings and replace the kit with what is needed.
3. H2O- I have a small Costco water bottle and have my old “First Need” purifier (a true purifier).
4. Extra hiking essentials kits- this is easy I just use some of my older stuff
5. Cooking- I use my old MSR Dragonfly- It can run on most anything and is a real workhorse. I use my old large MSR cook set
6. Shelter- old plastic sheet for a tarp
This is my old heavy stuff but it all works and I don’t think I’ll have to go far, nor fast. But I’m still working or the whole thing. Right now it’s been in my office for the last 6 months. I keep thinking that if I see it enough I’ll do something about it. I gues it has become a piece of furniture.
Good luck with your bagApr 1, 2009 at 5:17 pm #1490530
@rezniemLocale: San Francisco
You aren't going to have Internet access on your boat, right?
If not, then happy sailing and may tour days at sea be long and smooth, for if I wanted to encounter foaming at the mouth wingnug hysteria, I'd turn on Fox News, not log onto BPL.Apr 1, 2009 at 5:28 pm #1490537
"Like my dad used to always say. Ali if you have dug your self into a hole, stop digging."
So when are you going to start taking his advice? :)Apr 1, 2009 at 5:34 pm #1490539
"So is Ali the only person who forecasted the US markets correctly?"
I doubt it, but I'll bet most of them are too busy counting their money to post about it on The Net. The smart ones keep their mouths shut.
Add your coApr 1, 2009 at 7:29 pm #1490575
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@hechoendetroitLocale: South Kak
dood… you're buggin' out >:OApr 1, 2009 at 8:01 pm #1490586
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@cbertLocale: N. California
real estateApr 2, 2009 at 12:48 am #1490620
@acrosomeLocale: Back in the Front Range
Well, my bugout bag is pretty much pre-defined for me. I'm in the military. So, yes, my kit does include a fair amount of, um, "expendables". (I.e. ammunition.) But again, decisions on weapon, caliber, etc., are made for me. Further, I am usually surrounded by friendly gentlemen who are even more heavily armed than I am. Think Javelin antitank missiles, Apache guships, etc.
Thus, I do not anticipate any particular hardships if The Collaspe comes, unless it is a little more work. (I'm a doctor, so I will be running TOWARD things like Katrina.) I live 10 minutes from post, so I can get my family there right quick if I have to. And I do keep a box with essentials (water, food, flashlight, etc.) available at the house, as recommended by my employers. But it ain't light. :)
But there will be no Collapse. There was no Collapse when we came off the gold standard. There was no Collapse during the Great Depression. There was no Collapse during either Oil Crisis. There was no Collapse at Y2K. (By the way, any luck selling all of your expired MREs on 01JAN2000, Ali?) Do I agree with EVERYTHING Obama is doing? No, of course not- I have my criticisms. I'm a moderate conservative, after all. But he isn't going to run the dollar into the ground. And, if you're really worried about that you'd have all your assets in gold or other durable commodities- but now is NOT the time to buy gold, as the price is high. The time to buy gold was a decade or so ago when it was $250/oz instead of about $1000/oz as it is now.
That said, Ali- Stop trolling! You could easily have asked about people's disaster plans and emergency kits without mentioning politics, but you chose instead to tweak people's noses and invite a flame war. In typical troll fashion you then whined about being criticized and tried to claim the moral high ground as the aggrieved victim of intolerance.
Get a life, and find your amusements elsewhere.
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