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  • #1490369
    Jim Sweeney
    BPL Member

    @swimjay

    Locale: Northern California

    Any time the Big Bucks show up in a sport, it's just human nature to use any advantage one can, legal or not. Oh, wait…you say there are no Big Bucks in backpacking? Not even mentioned in Sports Illustrated? Well dang, I have been wasting my time! I'm switching over to endurance flag-pole sitting, and I will use any drug I can get my hands on to reach the top.

    #1490380
    Joe Clement
    BPL Member

    @skinewmexico

    Locale: Southwest

    With the right………technique, endurance flag pole sitting doesn't need any enhancing drugs!

    #1490395
    Einstein X
    BPL Member

    @einsteinx

    Locale: The Netherlands

    I personally think that if you are asking exceptionally much of your body, like showing your bike the french country side for two weeks, doing 200 km every day, or trying to ice speed skate faster than it is legal to drive your car through town, or regularly visit cities across the globe to try to be the first to cross some fictional line 42 km after crossing another fictional line, or keep squatting until you can lift a Volkswagen beetle, your body will need exceptionally much. Is it cheating? Is it unfair? Maybe, but I don't believe there is not a professional bicyclist that does not take performance enhancing substances. Do I care? Nope! Do I care if ultra long distance hikers use performance enhancing substances? Nope!

    Eins

    #1490398
    Kevin Sawchuk
    BPL Member

    @ksawchuk

    Locale: Northern California

    Sadly it has come to this. With the multi-million dollar contracts for star backpackers and trail managers offering huge incentives for records on their trails it's no surprise that fast hikers have resorted to supplements.

    We need a congressional investigation and a truth/reconciliation commission to stomp out this smouldering campfire. I'm going to start with a confession–I used Molasses Chews when I set the record on the JMT in 2004. I also used a special garlic infused humus on my Pita sandwiches. I can accept an asterick after my name in the record books but it feels so good to come clean.

    I'm also going to out Skurka here and now. When we were in Yellowstone he reconstituted a powdered substance in boiling fluid, wrapped it in a flour tortilla and ate it. Afterwards he hiked much faster until we arrived at camp in the dark. He said it was potatoes but it was in an unmarked ziplock bag and I have no way to confirm his claims.

    I think we need to have drug testers at the end of every hike and major trail. It's the only way to preserve lightweight backpacking's integrity and image.

    #1490399
    Peter Sustr
    BPL Member

    @czechxpress

    Locale: Boulder

    So taking steroids for long distance hiking is bad??? but carrying 50 lbs of muscle should help me carry a lighter pack i thought……

    #1490400
    W I S N E R !
    Spectator

    @xnomanx

    Anybody know of any good UL sharps disposal/storage containers?

    I'll be honest, up until now I've been throwing my used needles in bushes and streams.

    BPL should look into making one.

    #1490406
    Sam Haraldson
    BPL Member

    @sharalds

    Locale: Gallatin Range

    BPL sharps container

    This product has been in the design process for quite some time now.

    #1490409
    Brian UL
    Member

    @maynard76

    Locale: New England

    I seriously wouldnt be surprised if ultra-hikers doped. I mean why wouldn't they? As someone said already, top athletes use performance enhancing drugs, every sports fan knows this and they don't care. I would like to just see the sports fans/athletes just stop playing the game and just do it already!. Why not have steroid companies advertise that sport star x uses their product. Sport stars are entertainment nothing more.
    So if someone is willing to do "anything" and push the limits of human endurance it only makes sense that that person would would be willing to risk their long term health for the goal- even if it doesn't mean widespread money and fame these people are obsessed so why limit themselves to arbitrary social values when it stands in the way of the goal?
    Im old fashioned myself and would one day just like to see what old fashioned hard work and dedication could accomplish- but Im not holding my breath.

    #1490412
    Mark Krenzien
    BPL Member

    @mkrenzien

    Reminds me of another article about UL hikers who used banned loofas to reduce their "skin-out weight."

    #1490427
    Sam Haraldson
    BPL Member

    @sharalds

    Locale: Gallatin Range
    #1490441
    Joe Clement
    BPL Member

    @skinewmexico

    Locale: Southwest

    I can still see a day coming when the average guy starts doping a week or two before his once a year vacation with a backpack (or skiis, or whatever), just to aid recovery, reduce soreness, and prevent injury. Not saying it's right, just saying it's gonna happen. And it will have nothing to do with pushing the limits, or breaking records; just serve as insurance for a good vacation.

    #1490458
    Kevin Sawchuk
    BPL Member

    @ksawchuk

    Locale: Northern California

    Bryan said:
    "So if someone is willing to do "anything" and push the limits of human endurance it only makes sense that that person would would be willing to risk their long term health for the goal- even if it doesn't mean widespread money and fame these people are obsessed so why limit themselves to arbitrary social values when it stands in the way of the goal?"

    Although this is obviously an April Fool's Day forum I would have to disagree with Bryan if he's serious. To accept drugs in sports as fans is to either force athletes to cheat to get ahead or if they are fully legal to require any serious athlete to take health risks to be able to compete in their sport. I think of the choices my son (who's only 8 but a pretty good runner) might have to make to get a college scholarship or (and this is a WAY out there possibility) to go to the Olympics and I just don't want him to compromise his health or cheat.

    #1490464
    Brian UL
    Member

    @maynard76

    Locale: New England

    I dont want it to be that way either. I just think that we are already there, Its the way it is.

    #1490465
    William Stadwiser
    Member

    @bstadwiser

    I don't know what the recent LW doping rage is all about… the prototype BPL Hammer pants I've been rockin' for a month now increased my mileage and stamina instantaneously… the air flow is simply spectacular (and how did BPL know that pink was my color). Anyway, its a shame that people feel the need to resort to extremes when perfectly safe, sane and fashionable alternatives exist.

    – A super hip homeboy from the boze town.

    #1490467
    Andrew Richardson
    Member

    @arichardson6

    Locale: North East

    I can't believe I came into this thread and got slightly rick-rolled. I never imagined the day where anyone on BPL would rick-roll.

    #1490471
    Sam Haraldson
    BPL Member

    @sharalds

    Locale: Gallatin Range

    Bill, I'm so glad you're chiming in about with a testimonial about these pants.

    #1490473
    Bob Bankhead
    BPL Member

    @wandering_bob

    Locale: Oregon, USA

    The upshot of all this is that this summer the rangers will not only ask for your permit and bear can, they'll also demand a urine sample as well.

    Better leave the poppy seeds out of your GORP.

    #1490492
    Judi Henson
    Member

    @ritzhenson

    Locale: The Deep South

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    #1490536
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    What if nobody paid any attention to those who are constantly trying to do something better than everybody else
    and there was no money paid out for their efforts? No glory, no money, and all of a sudden drugs look pretty expensive, health issues come into focus, and everybody just relaxes and does whatever it is they love doing for the sheer "love of the game" instead of trying to one up the competition. Glory is fleeting at best. There's always somebody faster, stronger, meaner, etc. My 2 cents.

    #1490679
    Johnathan White
    Member

    @johnatha1

    Locale: PNW

    Personally, I took on a simple approach that I learned from a few sources including this site; HYOH.

    It seems to be overused and underappreciated, but until I learned what it actually meant, I would worry about stuff like performance enhancing drugs, distance, comparative analysis, etc. What it really means is freedom; freedom from competition; Freedom from all the social pressures I encounter daily.

    IMHO, those taking the stuff are not truly free from social pressures, hence not fully taking in the true essence that is hiking/backpacking. I have no opinion if it is a good or bad thing to take performance enhancing drugs, per-se, and will not judge those that do. I believe that one is supposed to be tired after a long day on the trail and that a zero day should feel like a blessing instead of a hindrance.

    #1490755
    Jesse Taylor
    BPL Member

    @ahikernamedgq

    An April Fool's joke. . .

    #1490898
    Denis Hazlewood
    BPL Member

    @redleader

    Locale: Northern California

    Sometimes, at the end of a particularly hard day's hike, I feel like a dope. Does that count?

    #1491321
    Mark Thompson
    Member

    @melakor

    Locale: So-Cal

    If anyone wants performance enhancing drugs, I know a guy that knows a guy, that used to hook up Balco Barry. He really needs your business; since the MLB has cracked down…beep me @ 555-SUCKER. Meet me at the trail head after dark.

    I'm your Pusher, your my Strawberry

    #1491335
    Rick Cheehy
    Member

    @kilgoretrout2317

    Locale: Virginia

    I finally was convinced that joints and Irish whiskey just weren't enough. So I switched to gamma radiation. Thank the gods I have my roomy ul hammer pants or every time I saw a dirt bike on the trail my big green a** would burst out of my drawers. (Drawers made by Ryan Jordan of course.)

    #1491374
    Kathy A Handyside
    BPL Member

    @earlymusicus

    Locale: Southeastern Michigan

    If it is, it's sad that EVERYTHING in this country has to be turned into a macho competition, with everyone trying to do everything faster and bigger than everyone else. That's not what I go into nature for: I go into nature to get away from such clutter of modern life.

    If this is true, it's simply stupid. Go ahead and waste your bodies for a microsecond of fame. Meanwhile, I'll be stepping over your bodies and continuing to hike on down the trail for many more years, without the use of such drugs.

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