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  • #1234939
    Dan Cunningham
    Member

    @mn-backpacker

    Locale: Land of 12,000 Loons

    Last week I realized that the US to Canadian exchange rate was in my favor. I ordered a BushBuddy Ultra directly from Fritz for only $91 including shipping. It showed up today, only 9 days later.

    The next day I was trying to get my hands on a BPL FireLite 1100 to nest it in, but I had no luck. I found a thread that mentioned that BPL sourced their FireLite from the same company that makes a brand called Tibetan Titanium. I don't know if this is actually true, but a few minutes in google later, and I was placing an order for a Tibetan Titanium 1100 for only $44 US including shipping from the UK.

    Through some magical twist of fate, both showed up on the today in my mailbox at the same time – one from Canada and one from the UK. It was like Christmas – you know the feeling! One thing I wasn't expecting is the fairly protective bright orange stuff sack the TT 1100 came in.

    The BB looks amazing – exactly as cool as I'd expected, except smaller. The TT 1100 and lid are typical Ti products. The BB nests nicely right down in it. I don't think the handles are useful for use with the BB, and add weight. I may remove them and put on a bail. The lid doesn't fit perfect, but that's par for the course with Ti stuff, so I don't care. The stuff sack won't keep soot out of my pack, and weighs more than is necessary. I may not use it, but it's sort of padded and would offer some protection.

    Now for the details, what really matters… The specs:

    BB Ultra = 4.75 ounces!
    TT 1100 = 4.0 ounces
    TT Lid = .75 ounces
    TT Stuff Sack = .625 ounces

    Total Package = 10.125 ounces

    TT1000-Sack

    TT1100-BB

    TT1100-BB-on-top

    #1487322
    Boozer
    BPL Member

    @anywayoutside

    Locale: South East

    Dan – I had already marked it off my list. Now you've gone and made pictures. I have to have one now.

    #1487353
    Michael B
    Member

    @mbenvenuto

    Locale: Vermont

    I have the 900 pot from them. The bushbuddy fits inside with the lid upside down. The lid is easily held down by the stuff sack.

    Bushbuddy

    #1487379
    Sean Mantell
    Member

    @seanmantell

    Locale: SoCal

    How does that mesh stuff sack deal with the soot. Does any get through, or is that enough?
    EDIT: Nevermind, I just read the original post more thoroughly.

    #1487402
    Michael B
    Member

    @mbenvenuto

    Locale: Vermont

    I was skeptical of the stuff sack too at first. But I haven't noticed soot coming through in use. The BB doesn't generate that much soot in the first place. I also think the slightly absorbent and thicker material of the stuff sack may work better than slippery sil-nylon at holding and limiting the amount of soot. I do notice that the outside of the sack is starting to look dirty, or sooty, but I think that is mostly from my hands. The thick material may also protect against crushing the pot when stuffed in a pack, so I think I will keep using it.

    I also have found the handles to be useful and that they don't heat up too much. I try to keep them out of the main flames, and am generally careful before trying to pick it up, but with light gloves or a paper towel, the handles work fine.

    #1487406
    Dan Cunningham
    Member

    @mn-backpacker

    Locale: Land of 12,000 Loons

    Michael – thanks for the tips! I may just use it as is now and see how I like it before I change things.

    #1487409
    Michael Landman
    Member

    @malndman

    Locale: Central NC, USA

    Tibet Ti pot- BB

    Nice fit, cool symbol on the pot, and 10+ oz with no fuel to carry is great.

    #1487413
    Devin Montgomery
    BPL Member

    @dsmontgomery

    Locale: one snowball away from big trouble

    @Dan

    >BB Ultra = 4.75 ounces!

    Was it really that far under spec? That's some good luck!

    Edit: From your pictures, it looks like the opening on the pot stand has been widened! Have others with this new design experienced similar weights? Fritz should publish that new weight if so – that's a good 1/3 ounce.

    #1487415
    Dan Cunningham
    Member

    @mn-backpacker

    Locale: Land of 12,000 Loons

    Was it really that far under spec? That's some good luck!

    Hence the exclamation point! It's only 135g – I was really pleasantly surprised.

    #1487525
    Dan Cunningham
    Member

    @mn-backpacker

    Locale: Land of 12,000 Loons

    I did a little test with the new pot. It's been raining all afternoon, so most of the twigs I had to pick from were wet, but it burned them no problem. Impressive – I freaking love this thing. It's one of the most gratifying pieces of gear ever, and I can't wait to get it out on the trail.

    Anyway, the handles on the pot didn't get hot at all. I had no problem grabbing the pot of boiling water (pictured below) by the handle. I think I'll keep them attached for now and see how it goes.

    I wonder how the thickness of the TT compares to the FireLite 1100 – is it heavier duty? Judging by the weight difference, it must be.

    bushbuddy-boil

    #1487528
    Franco Darioli
    Spectator

    @franco

    Locale: Gauche, CU.

    Dan, nice set up.
    It helps a lot to keep those handles cool if you separate them, just in case the wind blows the flames that way.
    Franco

    #1487530
    Randy G
    BPL Member

    @rando3369

    Locale: Western NY

    Looks familiar. This is the 700mL Ti Pot from Backcountry.com and it's stuff sack (if the pictures come through).

    backcountry pot stuff sack

    backcountry 700mL pot

    Anyway they look like the same manufacturer. I like the logo better on the Tibetan.

    #1487531
    Dan Cunningham
    Member

    @mn-backpacker

    Locale: Land of 12,000 Loons

    Franko – thanks for the tip on the handles! Makes sense. I learn something knew every day.

    Randy – I cheked out the BC mug – I'd say it's the same manufacturer. I wonder why they don't carry the 1.1L version I have?

    #1487533
    Randy G
    BPL Member

    @rando3369

    Locale: Western NY

    Maybe BC.com will be offering the 1100 soon. I think they are ramping up their in-house branded items, although the current state of the economy could change that.

    At least they seem to be very close on with their advertised weights. The website lists the 700 at 105g(3.7oz) and my scale shows 109g (3.8oz). Good enough for me.

    #1487564
    Ali e
    Member

    @barefootnavigator

    Locale: Outside

    For $91.oo you better be able to smoke it. Ali

    #1487566
    todd
    BPL Member

    @funnymo

    Locale: SE USA

    Dan,

    The side pocket on the pouch holds a BPL folding Ti spoon perfectly, too. I suspect it's made by Tibetan, too.

    Todd

    #1487568
    cary bertoncini
    Spectator

    @cbert

    Locale: N. California

    a $91 stove (shipped)

    the pot was $44 (shipped)

    #1487592
    Dan Cunningham
    Member

    @mn-backpacker

    Locale: Land of 12,000 Loons

    For $91.oo you better be able to smoke it. Ali

    Ali – as mentioned above, the stove is $91, not the pot.

    …and yes, it does smoke since it burns wood.

    #1487719
    Jamie Shortt
    BPL Member

    @jshortt

    Locale: North Carolina

    I think these ti mugs/pots are all coming from the same source. Last year I ordered a Brasslite 550 when I could not get an in-stock BPL 550. Well the brasslite looks just like the others: 1100, 700 etc…just smaller and it even says Tibetan. It too came in the same orange padded stuff sack. I purchased a BPL 550 caldera cone and it exactly fits the brasslite 550.

    When everyone was doing the Backcountry coupon craze I caved in and bought a snowpeak litemax stove and the BC 700 ti pot. The 700 looks to be a great mug too and it holds a small fuel canister and stove perfectly.

    Here is a pic with the BL 550 on the left and the BC 700 on the right. The fuel canister fits in both pots, but the 550 isnt large enough to hold the canister and stove with the lid on.

    pots

    Jamie

    #1487744
    Jamie Shortt
    BPL Member

    @jshortt

    Locale: North Carolina

    I just did a search and found lighthound.com sells the tibetan stuff. The have a 450 (no lid), 700, and 900 pot. I've never purchased from lighthound.com, but I would recommend these mugs/pots. They are light, perform well, have lids, and are reasonably priced.

    Jamie

    #1487755
    John Haley
    Member

    @quoddy

    Locale: New York/Vermont Border

    I've been resisting the BBU for over a year. This thread started me thinking about it all over again since I already have the FireLite SUL-900 that it fits into perfectly. Yes, I broke down and ordered it from Fritz. This is my birthday present from my wife.

    #1487759
    Boozer
    BPL Member

    @anywayoutside

    Locale: South East

    I understand John – mine was a Thursday present from myself.

    #1487783
    Franco Darioli
    Spectator

    @franco

    Locale: Gauche, CU.

    Jonathan
    You win the comment of the day competition.
    (made me laugh)
    Franco

    #1487796
    Dan Cunningham
    Member

    @mn-backpacker

    Locale: Land of 12,000 Loons

    Jonathan – You win the comment of the day competition.

    Agreed, I almost spit my beer out!

    I'm glad I was able to inspire people to part with their cash. Fritz builds one hell of a piece of gear. You will not be disappointed.

    #1487817
    Taylor Ginther
    Member

    @tippet

    Locale: San Diego

    I gave up my zipstove after it continually ticked off my hiking partners. They didn't like the smoke. The soot was kind of a PIA too.

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