Sep 4, 2008 at 10:02 am #1231013
Is it just me, or does anyone else do this? I'm injured at present and can't get out on the hills. I find myself internet surfing and shopping, and buying more outdoor stuff than i really need! Everything shouts buy me!
Is this a form of compensating? :)Sep 4, 2008 at 10:19 am #1449964
I suggest reading a book, or watching a movie and not spending your time on this website. Essentially, this website (whether it is intending to or not) is a massive advertising campaign to get you to buy lightweight gear.
Just think, if this website wasn't here, you probably would lack a whole lot of knowledge relating to lightweight backpacking. You might still be carrying a 20 pound pack!
If you can't tear yourself away from your past habit of checking the recent posts five times a day (like me) than just look at trip reports and their pictures. Don't look at gear reviews and posts about lighter gear.
And if you find yourself walking by an outdoor store, just walk in and gaze at all the exciting posters! They will totally fill the void of not hiking, without suggesting that you buy products (although some of the posters have brands on them). You can also just talk to the clerks, providing that they're not that busy, and talk about both of your last hiking trips.
I am Max and I approve these techniques!Sep 4, 2008 at 10:29 am #1449967
Hey Max. I think those gear shops have some form of sensor that can recognise a frustrated hiker. My wallet seems to have a mind of its own! :)
Hi, my names Mike……..Sep 4, 2008 at 11:29 am #1449978
@dsmontgomeryLocale: one snowball away from big trouble
>I find myself internet surfing and shopping, and buying more outdoor stuff than i really need! Everything shouts buy me!
Is this a form of compensating? :)
I think that it surely is, and I experience the same phenomenon. I think that a large part of gear buying obsession comes from sitting at home dreaming about the trail rather than being on the trail and thinking X or Y about the shortcomings of some piece of gear. Most of the problems that I've run into with my gear on the trail I've been able to deal with by modifying the gear or adapting my technique.
For me, trail use sets a clear standard for gear – the less you notice it, the better of a job it's doing. When sitting at home, however, it's easy for a mind to artificially fixate on small weight or feature gains that only a DIFFERENT and MORE EXPENSIVE piece of gear offers.
I also think that the use of forums like this is in some way a substitute for being on the trail or chatting with buds about great trips or useful pieces of gear. Insofar as it compliments actual hiking and interaction with real people, I think that it's of real benefit. If one allowed it to REPLACE actual hiking etc. and interacting with real people, I think that would be a big mistake.Sep 4, 2008 at 3:13 pm #1450028
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
> Everything shouts buy me!
I understand the problem. The solution is to start making your own gear … :-)
CheersSep 4, 2008 at 4:41 pm #1450045
@retropumpLocale: The Antipodes of La Coruna
>I understand the problem. The solution is to start making your own gear … :-)
Hmmm, the only time something shouts out to me to "make me" is when what I want isn't available to buy. More often stuff shouts out to me to "modify me", or make me if nothing close is available commercially. I suspect if I didn't have a full time 'other' job, I would find a lot more stuff calling out to "make me". It's a pretty satisfying way to aquire gear that suits your needs, but I wouldn't want the time spent making gear to replace any time I might spend walking and using gear!Sep 4, 2008 at 6:37 pm #1450062
Everything shouts buy me!
BUY! BUY! BUY!
It's OK.Sep 4, 2008 at 9:02 pm #1450075
Buying things is not OK!Sep 4, 2008 at 10:34 pm #1450080
My original point, was that this doesn't seem to happen so much when i'm not injured.
I used to be a fanatical runner, but had to give that up due to a long term injury. For years, all i seemed to see was folk jogging, and had to fight this urge to shout obscenities at them as they went past! Now i just mutter to myself. Am i turning into my dad? :)Sep 5, 2008 at 5:11 am #1450092
Am i turning into my dad?
Resistance is futileSep 5, 2008 at 7:33 am #1450103
Resistance in NOT FUTILE!Sep 5, 2008 at 9:14 am #1450113
The comment to "make your own gear" took the words out of my mouth, but also: Make your own backpacking food. Many great meals and bars can be assembled, dehydrated, and frozen ahead of time so when it's time to hike, the food is ready to go.Sep 5, 2008 at 11:09 am #1450122
Concept: don't buy, make your own…
Merino UL shirt – or better…
Raise your own sheep
Trail food from bulk – or better…
Grow your own food – or better…
Make your own seeds
Reality: with all things we consume, some assembly required – either you do it or somebody else does it. If you feel good making something yourself that doesn't mean someone else should feel bad for buying theirs.
When you make your own gear – where did your material come from? did you use electricity? did you get info from a web site?
SELF-SUFFICIENCY is no longer possible for humans, pets, rodents, etc. The hen and the egg – what came first? : )Sep 5, 2008 at 11:31 am #1450128
>The hen and the egg – what came first?
If you mean 'any' egg then obviously egg came into existence much before birds did.
But if by egg you means hen's egg then hen came first. Dude, it was evolution.Sep 5, 2008 at 12:07 pm #1450132
Chuffing fine chaff you have started.
I do lots of fell running and am not injured but still buy too much and, what is very very scary, have asked for a sewing machine for christmas so I can make my own gear.
I am a stereotype: help me!
(Actually I have asked my son to lock all my credit cards in his safe; he has a safe cos I eat all his chocolate so my parents bought him it; so maybe it's just down to self-control, and clearly I have very little…. let's leave it there eh!).Sep 5, 2008 at 12:23 pm #1450134
Dude, it was evolution.
hen -ry shires tarptentSep 5, 2008 at 12:30 pm #1450135
have asked for a sewing machine for christmas so I can make my own gear
Oh my God! I just flashbacked to the movie 'Apocalypse Now' when Kurtz said "The horror… the horror…"Sep 5, 2008 at 12:44 pm #1450139
George, I wish I understood that!
But, my partner and son are both horrified by the 'sewing machine' thought (if that is the correct interpretation of your thread!).
If I had a sewing machine I know I would have cotton connected fingers.Sep 5, 2008 at 12:58 pm #1450143
My wife has a sewing machine and years of sewing experience. When I first began backpacking light, I tried to learn how to sew. My plan was to make most of my lightweight gear.
She tried to teach me, but always ended up doing most of the sewing. She, in a friendly but serious manner, told me that she had done enough gear. Now I buy.
I think it would be incredible to be able to master a sewing machine. It just wasnt to be for me.
The 'horror' was just an exaggerated attempt at comedy from my jungle war sewing experience. My uncle used to always say that if you have to explain a joke, then it was not funny. My apologies.Sep 5, 2008 at 1:41 pm #1450147
No need to apologise! I am (1) clumsy and (2) all fingers and thumbs; a sewing machine + me = blood and pain! So I think your experience is a timely reminder!
I think I will stick to my card (if I can get it out of my son's safe), unless Roger has some hot tips as to sewing machine mastery?Sep 5, 2008 at 3:04 pm #1450158
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
> unless Roger has some hot tips as to sewing machine mastery?
I don't understand the blood and pain bit at all! Did you try to sew your fingers?
OK, I'll bite. It really is simple. Get some cheap material – worn-out clothing will do, and practice straight seams. Get your wife to set the machine up first, then just sew practice seams. Hey – if I and many others can do it, so can you!
Don't try complicated things like button holes and frills – waste of time at the start. KISS.
CheersSep 5, 2008 at 4:32 pm #1450175
So what bar in Sydney do you discuss your sewing techniques Roger. ;)Sep 5, 2008 at 4:41 pm #1450176
Practiced the cheap material seams idea. Not too bad. However, there was always something happening during the real deal. Was like the sewing machine was possessed by evil.
The bobbin thread would run out. Or the regular thread. Or the needle broke. Or I'd sew one piece to the other piece without the right side out or in. Then there was adjusting the tension. And which stitch is which.
These incidents seemed to never happen when my wife was running The Machine. She just quietly sits and you hear the zigzigzig sound and then she's done and gets up smiling.
Maybe I will try again this winter if I can gain the courage. I'd love to be able to sew, without assistance from you know who, just one piece of gear that I use.
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