May 21, 2008 at 2:35 pm #1229083
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Yes, it's tough. Francis Tapon used one during his CDT thru-hike, as have many others, with no reports of breaking that I know of. If winds are super strong, you can let it fold a bit and support it with your body rather than relying on the tines alone.
The chrome feature is really nice and provides real shade unlike cloth alone.
It's not really big enough for two people unless you're just standing still. It covers the top of your pack well though, when using it for yourself.May 21, 2008 at 3:09 pm #1434340
Let me measure… 25 inches. I think the design of this umbrella is pretty complete. It's been improved a couple times, and it really is light (7.8 oz).May 21, 2008 at 3:44 pm #1434347
how reflective is it
like could it be used as a signaling device in a pinch?May 21, 2008 at 4:06 pm #1434350
@ericnobleLocale: Colorado Rockies
I just bought the Montbell Ultralight Treking Umbrella. It's a little lighter at 5.2 oz and seems tough enough, but I need to actually put it to the test. I had it on an outing this past weekend but we had no wind nor rain, drat.May 21, 2008 at 4:07 pm #1434351
less reflective than a space blanketMay 21, 2008 at 7:55 pm #1434389
@havocLocale: North Texas
You might also consider the liteflex swing umbrella by Birdiepal. It weighs just under 8 oz, is 25 inches tall, 39 inches wide, and is available with a silver reflective coating, like the Chrome Dome. Check it out at http://www.birdiepal.com/
If you search around on the site you can find a video of the wind tunnel test, bulldozer test, and ater test. Here is all I could find at the moment http://www.birdiepal.com/030499.htm
I think both the Golite Chrome Dome and Birdiepal Liteflex would be durable enough for a long hike. best of luck and let us know what you choose and how it works out for you.May 25, 2008 at 7:13 pm #1434907
@tarasbulbaLocale: Rocky Mountains
I've been using a collapsible bumbershoot for a few years now and consider it essential PNW gear. It folds down to a mere 7X2, weighs 6.8 oz. and can fit in my pocket. I couldn't tell you what brand it is because I found it in the gutter, but similar ones can be had at any drug store, etc. for less than $10.
For warm Spring or Summer showers it's my first choice as it works so much better than a Gore-tex jacket that doesn't breathe; however, when it gets really stormy – high winds, horizontal rain – then the gore-tex comes out. It's a matter of selecting the right tool for the job!May 26, 2008 at 4:42 am #1434948
James D BuchMember
I've used those collapsible consumer inexpensive umbrellas for years in town. All the ones I have had turn inside out in wind gusts really easily. They do seem to usually be able to be flopped around and made back into domes after an inversion.
Is that your experience?
Or have you luckily found some astoundingly engineered product/May 28, 2008 at 2:31 pm #1435390
The Golite Chrome Dome and the Birdiepal Liteflex are the EXACT same product (I know, I have one of each), so buy whichever you find cheapest. They are quite well made and designed. A couple of famous thru-hikers have used them without incident for years.May 28, 2008 at 3:17 pm #1435397
@jcarter1Locale: Pacific Northwest
Thanks for the helpful info; I own a GoLite Chrome Dome and was considering trying our the Birdiepal. That answers that question for me.
BTW, if any of you are trekking pole users and don't like the idea of having to stow the pole while using the umbrella, I've found a way to combine both. But you have to be willing to shell out some dough.
It is quite easy to remove the center pole from the Chrome dome; it is made of CF, and as such can be sawed in half with a regular household hand saw. The center poles removes from the top of the umbrella by removing a screw under the cap.
It so happens that the umbrella slides onto the lower shaft of a Komperdell C2 trekking pole. It will not work on regular 3-piece trekking poles, since the lowest segment is not long enough when the umbrella is closed. That's okay, though, since the C2 is the lightest 2-section trekking pole on the market that holds a person's body weight (it's the 2-section version of the BMW Stix PRO).
Anyway, if you insert the lower pole of the C2 into the Chrome Dome, and purchase a Black Diamond flicklock (sold as an accessory on their website), the flicklock clamps over the Chrome Dome base to create a secure grip. Thus deploying the umbrella is simply a matter of unlocking the flicklock, sliding it up the pole, and clamping back down. in other words, it works just like a regular Umbrella!
This will shave 3-4 oz off the umbrella, but it is just as strong, IMO. Then you don't have to fiddle with stowing your trekking pole, and I find it easier to use, since I can extend the pole and hold the umbrella from near my waist. The umbrella slides right off the pole, so removing and stowing it is quite simple.May 29, 2008 at 3:21 am #1435505
@elizabethkLocale: Southern California
John, can you post photos of your creation?May 29, 2008 at 3:31 am #1435507
Wow, that would really be something! I checked my Titanium Goat poles, and they appear to be about 1 mm thinner than the Chrome Dome shaft. You would have to somehow remove the tips, though.May 29, 2008 at 2:36 pm #1435635
@wildmanMay 29, 2008 at 10:49 pm #1435701
@jcarter1Locale: Pacific Northwest
I just left for the weekend, but I'll get photos posted when I return.
Indeed the GoLite pole diameter is a little thicker than these CF poles. It fits perfectly on the bottom section of my Black Diamond poles, but since they are 3-section, I can't fully close the umbrella. My solution was to wrap some black electrical tape around the section that holds the umbrella secure. Just a few times around gave it the perfect diameter, and also makes it grippy for a really secure fit.
Re: TiGoat poles: shouldn't you be able to slide the Umbrella onto the lower pole by pulling the two pole pieces apart? No need to slide it over the tip.
Being able to get the umbrella over a non-adjustable pole like the BMW Stix PRO would be the holy grail setup, since when not in use, the Umbrella could be slid up to near the grip, allowing for a much better swing when not in use. With my setup the Umbrella is stored on the bottom half, which adds a lot of weight the the swing. It's fine for intermittent storage, such as on-and-off rain or when approaching a section of thick trees. But for longer storage, such as a long ascent or descent where both poles are needed, I would probably remove the umbrella and stow it in my backpack. Having the Umbrella higher up the shaft during storage would mean I could permanently leave the umbrella on the pole.
Again, I'll post images when I return. Stay tuned…Jun 30, 2008 at 8:14 pm #1440936
I owned a GoLite regular dome umbrella for years which never failed in all types of weather. I purchased a Chrome Dome within the last year for supposedly more UV protection. Within one year the fabric separated from the struts in two spots leading to, of course, much less effectiveness. Thus far, GoLite has not answered my questions about repair/guarantee, etc. An umbrella in the backcountry has become an indispensible item but would not recommend the Chrome dome at this point…stick with the regular dome which I think provides both water, UV protection and virtual weightlessness.Jun 30, 2008 at 9:49 pm #1440949
@foundLocale: Sacramento, CA
I've broken two chrome domes in the wind. Each time because I thought that it wasn't really windy enough to put it away, then bam! a gust flipped it and broke it.Jul 4, 2008 at 4:06 pm #1441540
it looks goofy as all get out but it is light , cheeeep and works. google trick or novelty head umbrellas. they attach ,(fit arround the head) are funny colors and have to be modified (some elastic tape worked) for my big head. no handle. the gnome of blue islandJul 4, 2008 at 4:09 pm #1441541
ps, you of course can use your treking poles while wearing your umbrella, light too!May 11, 2009 at 3:11 am #1500478
Someone on an old 2006 thread said the following about the Montbell umbrella:
"I checked out the Montbell umbrella in their Boulder store and you have to manually straighten every rib to open it and manually break it down (every rib) before closing."
Is this still the case? Is the montbell umbrella annoying to use? I am tossing up between the montbell and the golite. Obviously would like to go as light as possible, but not if I am sacrificing usability or wind-worthiness.
Can anyone who has used both comment? What do you get for your extra couple of ounces with the Golite?May 11, 2009 at 4:50 am #1500479
@butukiLocale: Kanto Plain, Japan
I've been using the Montbell umbrella since 1993, buying six iterations of it every time one wore out or got lost. It's the only umbrella I use. You don't have to manually break down the ribs each time. Where in the world did that idea come from??? It's not automatic, but it's no different from any other simple folding umbrella I've used before. You do have to carefully fold the webbing when stowing the umbrella away, but you have to do that with automatic umbrellas, too.May 11, 2009 at 6:05 am #1500483
@pbrown19Locale: Traverse City MI
With the montbell "trekking" model umbrella, you do have to manually unsnap all the support struts to fold it back up. I had one of these umbrellas and was less then pleased with the durability of it… It completely broke after a very slight wind came in while testing it. In the future I will be looking for a sturdier model.May 11, 2009 at 6:18 am #1500489
@bryanuwLocale: Pacific Northwest
I picked one up recently and have been impressed with it so far. You do have to manually snap the ribs into place every time but only if you want the umbrella to be completely closed and compact. The other option that I often use is to keep the ribs fully extended and close the umbrella making sure to tuck the tips into the handle for secure storing. I figure this also allows the umbrella to dry quicker in between uses.
As far as the durability is concerned, I have no qualms with its ability to withstand gusts and fairly strong winds. It may feel a bit flimsy but so far it has performed well.May 11, 2009 at 11:50 am #1500563
Get a birdiepal instead or even Golite over Montbell.May 11, 2009 at 12:09 pm #1500567
@sdwhiteyLocale: Smoky Mountains
I think Snow Peak has the best umbrella in terms of the tradeoff between weight, strength, and coverage.
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