Aluminum “Flat Fold” Cook Pot
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After writting about folding Titanium and making a “Flat Fold” cook pot I had a look at the materials I have on hand. At one time BMW was selling some Titanium Foil but it cost a lot and I could never think of a use for it. It isn’t listed for sale anymore or I might gets some and try it for this.
I first tried some heavy duty Aluminum Foil. I used it double but it wasn’t strong enough to support itself with water in it. I have some thin Brass Sheet but it wasn’t wide enough for the Orikaso bowl pattern I made. I had an Aluminum pan liner or what ever they are called like some use for a windscreen. It also was to small for the Orikaso pattern. I decided to make a smaller pattern. The first “downsize” was to small. The second was used with the Aluminum pan liner thing.
I don’t know how it will hold up to folding and un-folding and will test that. The “fold/un-fold” pan liner cook pot weighs 0.32oz. The Orikaso bowl weighs 1.19oz.
Later today I will try and boil water in the cook pot and see what happends. If it fails I will make another one out of the Brass Sheet stuff and see if that will work.
If nothing works as a cook pot I can still use the Aluminum Flat-Fold “pan liner” as a very light bowl.
I have completed my first Al Flat Fold Cook Pot boil test (12oz of water). I used a full Esbit tablet. I had a boil between 4 and 5 minutes. The Pan Liner Cook Pot looks like it came through the first test boil OK. The Esbit left some black on the bottom and side of the pot. I will see if this will come off. I will next try the cook pot with one of my alcohol soda can stoves.
Hi Joshua & Vick, I see the main problem being something that gets to complicated vs other simple ways to boil water. Several years ago when Risk posted his first wood stove I made one and we exchanged a few ideas. He was using a fan with a home made blade on it and I was using a small computer fan. I suggested he look for something like that and he found his at Radio Shack. I mounted my fan on the side of the stove so it would blow into and around the inside of the stove for better combustion. I wanted to use my wood stove for a little extra heat if it was cool or damp and just to have a small fire. My stove weighed about 7oz not counting the 9 volt battery. When I started using Titanium I thought about replacing all the Aluminum with Titanium.
Making a hybrid/origami style wood stove could be done. I have been playing with some paper models and they would use side supports that are worked into the design and support the weight of the cook pot. I like things simple and easy to set-up under bad weather conditions and this may not fit into that standard.
Roy: I have moved your “Insulated Cook Pot” idea over here to another “Cook Pot” Thread.
Roy asked this: I have an idea I want to share with you. The idea is to insulate the sides and lid of a pot to keep heat from escaping while boiling water. Sort of like a permanet pot cozy. I’m thinking this might increase efficency by preventing heat loss thru the pot . Last night I made a primative version out of foil and wire mesh and ran some informal tests. It seemed to shave about 20-30 seconds off boil times. I think if better material are used results might be turn out more positive. What do you think? Anyone?
First a bunch of questions.
1 – How much water were you boiling?
2 – How long did it take to boil your water?
3 – What kind of pot/size/ width and height of pot?
4 – Kind of stove?
5 – How much extra weight are you willing to add to your gear for something like this?Now why all the questions. There may be a better ___________ fill in the blanks. Type of pot. Type of stove. Etc.
Insulating the pot seems like a good idea. I have one of those old MSR Heat Exchange things. As a potter who sometimes makes my own kilns I have several kinds of kiln building materials on hand. The lightest high temp insulation I use is a ceramic fiber. This looks sort of like wool but is used to replace fire brick. Most of it can take 2500 degrees “F” +. It is very light compaired to brick. I have it in different thickness up to about 4″. It would be easy to peel away a layer 1/2′ thick or so and use that to insulate a cook pot. This stuff will not burn at any temp you would get with a camping stove. I would cover the ceramic fiber with something like Aluminum pan liner material such as I used on my Flat Fold Cook Pot. That would allow you to handle the pot without touching the fiber. You also don’t want it to get it into the water. A lid could be made the same way or with something like Neoprene. The lid is far enough away from any flame that catching on fire should not be a problem.
This is what the ceramic fiber looks like.
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