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    Alex Darr
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    @alex90

    I'm planning to thru-hike using an alcohol soda can stove, but I'm curious about how easy it is to obtain fuel in trail towns. Has anyone ever had a problem finding it? Everclear will not be an option for me as I will be a few years shy of drinking age next March.

    #1414100
    Dave T
    Member

    @davet

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    #1414103
    Vick Hines
    Member

    @vickrhines

    Locale: Central Texas

    There are two reliable sources for alcohol fuel: 1) Denatured alcohol, a mix is ethanol and 10 percent toxic methanol, labelled "lacquer thinner and marine stove fuel", and found in hardware and paint stores and most outfitters in trail towns and REI. Quantities are one quart or one gallon; and 2) automotive fuel line de-icer such as HEET in the yellow 10 ounce bottle, another mix of ethanol with 10 percent methanol. HEET in the red bottle is isopropyl alcohol which will leave a greasy, sooty deposit on your pots. Yellow HEET is found at convenience store/gas stations, gas stations and automotive supply stores.

    Other isopropyls such as 90+ percent rubbing alcohol are also readily available in groceries and pharmacies.

    If you can't find denatured alcohol or yellow HEET, the isopropyl is a "make do" alternative. It is theoretically a little more efficient, but harder to light, and does not usually get full efficiency from the common backpackers' alcohol burners. One advantage is that you can see its flames in daylight – unlike those of denatured alcohol which has virtually invisible, and therefore dangerous, flames.

    So, I guess that's more than 2 sources, but who's counting. Finding fuel on the AT is no problem.

    #1415429
    Laurie Ann March
    Member

    @laurie_ann

    Locale: Ontario, Canada

    I've seen this mentioned a few times… what is Everclear?

    #1415433
    Victor Karpenko
    BPL Member

    @viktor

    Locale: Northern California

    Everclear is ethanol, grain alcohol, which is available for human consumption. Local laws determine the concentration. For example, New Mexico has a concentration of 95% alcohol (190 proof) and Nevada as it at 75.5% (151 proof).

    #1415445
    Laurie Ann March
    Member

    @laurie_ann

    Locale: Ontario, Canada

    thanks – I wasn't sure – I had read the comment about drinking it and then saw it in this thread so it got my curiousity up – I actually thought the poster might have been kidding

    #1415449
    Sarah Kirkconnell
    BPL Member

    @sarbar

    Locale: Homesteading On An Island In The PNW

    It is a liquor that college kids love. It has minimal flavor as well, so works great poured into things like Kool Aid and fruit. And yes, it will get you drunk very fast. Hence, why so popular ;-)

    #1415489
    Vick Hines
    Member

    @vickrhines

    Locale: Central Texas

    You can drink Everclear, but should dilute it considerably. Remember, most hard hooch is 40 percent alcohol. Everclear is about 95 percent. At that concentration, it is toxic. Acute alcohol poisoning has killed quite a few binging college boys.

    For the backpacker, Everclear is like having freeze-dried vodka. As a fuel,it is expensive – from $15 to $20 per fifth of a gallon. Denatured alcohol costs less than half as much, but the methyl alcohol added as the denaturing agent is absolutely not drinkable. It causes blindness and/or death and cannot be rendered drinkable by any means available outside a laboratory.

    Backpackers have numerous favorite formulas for Everclear drinks. They all start with diluting it to the approximate concentration of the hooch being replicated:

    Everclear vodka: Add 4 ounces EC to 8 ounces of ice cold water. Say things like "Prosit!"

    Everclear Kaluah: Dissolve 1 heaping teaspoon of instant coffee and 4 teaspoons of sugar in 4 ounces of hot water. Cool, add 2 ounces Everclear. Wear a sarong.

    Everclear ouzo: dissolve 3 drops anise extract in 1 ounce EC. Add 2 ounces water. Dance on the table.

    Everclear bourbon: Steep dry oak leaf in 2 ounces EC. Decant. Dissolve pinch of sugar and 2 drops red wine in 4 ounces of water. Add decanted EC. Some like to swish a piece of caramel candy in it insread of using the sugar. Complain about minorities.

    Everclear wine: Add 1 ounce of EC to 7 ounces of grape Koolaid. For sparkling wine, blow in the bottle. For authentic aged taste, steep the EC over an oak leaf first.

    #1415529
    Lynn Tramper
    Member

    @retropump

    Locale: The Antipodes of La Coruna

    Screw-driver PLUS: Dissolve a citrus flavored fizzy aspirin and a citrus flavored fizzy B-vitamin tablet in 6 ounces water. Add 2 ounces EC. Gets you drunk, tickles your tongue, treats the hangover AND replaces the B-vites you lose to alcohol consumption.

    #1415582
    Laurie Ann March
    Member

    @laurie_ann

    Locale: Ontario, Canada

    that's funny Allison – does it really work?

    #1415594
    Theodore Hall
    Member

    @bohican

    Sorry for the thread drift, but every time I read about Everclear I always think of this song,
    Pat Green – Everclear
    . I haven't consumed the stuff since college, but some of those recipes look almost palatable.

    #1415611
    David Neumann
    BPL Member

    @idahomtman

    Locale: Southern Oregon Coast

    Vick, those recipes are awesome. Be careful at the higher altitudes also! And don't forget to drink lots of water…

    #1415661
    Frank Perkins
    Member

    @fperkins

    Locale: North East

    "Everclear wine: Add 1 ounce of EC to 7 ounces of grape Koolaid. For sparkling wine, blow in the bottle. For authentic aged taste, steep the EC over an oak leaf first."

    LOL!

    #1417227
    Coin Page
    BPL Member

    @page0018

    Locale: Southeastern USA

    Alex, in my experiments Everclear burns higher, faster and with a yellower flame than denatured alcohol. Not sure why. You might want to try it at home before hitting the trail.

    Yellow bottle HEET does work very well, as does denatured alcohol; one common brand at Home Depot is "S-L-X"

    #1417256
    Christopher Holden
    BPL Member

    @back2basics

    Locale: Southeast USA

    What ratio of EC:H2O would you dilute to for cooking? Just a thought of comparison with denatured (SLX)… but that depends on % of alcohol. Here in TN, I've only seen Everclear at 140 proof (70%). I find it amusing that people call it "PGA" or Pure Grain Alcohol. I've seen it in other states at 95%.
    SLX goes for about $5+/quart or $12+/gallon at home depot. Depending on the dilution of EC, it might be a viable option for cooking for someone inclined to drink it (dual use!). I use straight SLX for boiling and mix SLX:H2O at 5:1 if I want to simmer on my non-adjustable alchy stoves.

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