Dec 12, 2007 at 9:32 am #1226258
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@wandering_bobLocale: Oregon, USA
Try the Tahoe Rim Trail (TRT)
165 mile loop around the lake
Elevation from 5000 to 10,300 feet
Includes 40 miles of the PCT
or a variant of same, the Tahoe yosemite Trail (TYT).Dec 12, 2007 at 8:15 pm #1412330
How about the John Muir Trail? I'm hiking it late August next year. Planning on 15 days to complete the 211+ miles.Dec 12, 2007 at 9:56 pm #1412343
How far would you plan on going in those 12-14 days?
16-17 miles X 14 days = around 225+ miles.
I guess the below could work
If I had a map in front of me I would be more help so I'll have to get back to this one.
I can say that my favorite areas out there would have you working South on the East side of the PCT, cutting back to the PCT over Forester. Hit Lake South America and head West over Colby Pass.
Down Colby and over Avalanche Pass. Head North up Paradise and back on the West side through what ever Class 2-3 Peaking you can hit.
This may seem far???, but what do I know. I'm a little nutty considering that I starting the JMT without a sleeping bag and used a 1200 cu pack for the trip without resuppply.Dec 13, 2007 at 6:43 am #1412369
@wandering_bobLocale: Oregon, USA
While it sounds like it might be less rugged than what you're looking for, another option to the JMT is the Theodore Solomons Trail, a 271 mile lower elevation trail from Cottonwood Pass to Glacier Point in Yosemite Valley.
Or, if you really want to rough it big time, try the 1200 miles of Idaho's Centennial Trail from the Nevada border to Canada. Lots of cross-country on a jumble of diffrent trails, challenging resupply "opportunities", especially in the northern end. Probably best attempted by those who have already done the CDT. Definitely not for your average hiker.
Wandering BobDec 13, 2007 at 4:59 pm #1412456
@ouzelLocale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Sounds like you've done a bunch of stuff farther north(with the exception of Mitre Basin), so I'll throw a South Sierra ramble into the mix. Starting at Horseshoe Meadow: Go over either Cottonwood or New Army Pass; Head up toward Mitre Basin, but then go west past Sky Blue Lake over Crabtree Pass and drop into Crabtree Lakes Basin; Continue past Crabtree Lakes and follow Whitney Creek all the way down to the Kern River and head north to Junction Meadow(Whitney Creek is a beautiful, seldom done route that bypasses the JMT north to Wallace Creek and then down to Junction Meadow via Wallace Creek Trail); From Junction Meadow, head west up the Colby Pass trail; ~1/4 mile past Rockslide Lake turn south, cross the Kern Kaweah River, and ascend Pickett Creek(bushwhack initially and then a beautiful streamside scramble). Be sure and follow the east fork of the stream. It will take you into Kaweah Basin, easily one of the most beautiful places in the Sierra IMO. Cross into the west side of the basin and exit via the southernmost saddle on the western rim of the basin into the upper Kern Kaweah River drainage, or drop down the chain of lakes to the north and scramble steeply back down to the Kern Kaweah River and the Colby Pass Trail. Follow the Colby Pass Trail up to ~1 mile below Colby Pass and turn north into Milestone Bowl, a beautiful, wild lonely place. Cross Milestone Pass and drop down into Milestone Basin. From there head east to pick up the trail that goes south into the Kern Canyon or north to Lake South America. Go north to Lake South America. From there you have a couple of options: 1) go north over Harrison Pass and then over Deerhorn pass down past Vidette Lake to pick up the JMT and out either over Kearsarge Pass or Shepherd Pass(hitch back to Horseshoe Mdws or arrange a shuttle pickup); 2) Go by trail from Lake South America directly out over Shepherd Pass. If you have the time and energy, returning via Shepherd Pass would offer short side excursions to Wright Lakes Basin and Wallace Lake Basin, and Williamson Bowl(all worth a visit if you haven't seen them). And Shepherd Pass is a real kick in the butt, not to mention gorgeous, especially if you're coming down well acclimatized. It's my favorite entry into the South Sierra. I have done all of this except Deerhorn Pass-Vidette Lake in slightly shorter sections and can vouch that the route will go. Based on what you have said about your previous experience, you should be able to finish this in around 10 days, but if you decide to do it, I'd suggest you plan for a couple of extra days to just hang out along the way, because you'll be passing through some spectacular country. Whatever you decide to do, best of luck! Lots of class 2 and 3 peaks along the way. Check Secor's book for details.Dec 13, 2007 at 9:41 pm #1412496
Dang you Tom,
I was actually going to go for the starting at Horseshoe Meadows as well and follow the same loop I mentioned above up to the top of paradise.
The only thing was he wanted to start from Bishop.
I think starting down at Horseshoe has the best High Sierra views as well.
While doing the PCT, you also don't really get to enjoy much of the view through there anyway.
I'm changing my vote…Dec 14, 2007 at 9:20 am #1412535
@gfinley001Locale: SF Bay Area
Another possibility you might consider is the 100 mile loop I did a couple of years ago. Start from Wishon Reservoir, hike through SNF to the western end of Tehipite Valley (a 3000ft drop into a rarely visited but quite spectacular valley) then hike up the valley to hit the PCT at the east end of Le Conte valley. Go west on the PCT/JMT over Muir Pass and through Evolution Valley to the San Jaoquim river, then take the unmaintained trail up the river and over Hell-For-Sure Pass. Then you can complete the loop back to Wishon Reservoir by several different routes. Except for the JMT section and the last day or two heading back through SNF you're unlikely to run into many people. When I did this hike in late September I didn't see anyone for the first 4 days, but I did run into 5 bears (plus cubs) as they started their migration to lower elevations.
The picture attached to my profile is a photo of Tehipte Dome taken from the western end of Tehipite Valley.Dec 14, 2007 at 1:34 pm #1412554
@ouzelLocale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
I thought about the Bishop angle, too, but figured Dave could either hitch hike up from Independence or Lone pine, or use one of the shuttle services or the bus. I agree about the views, but then I'm an unabashed Kern bigot from way back. And yeah, you can definitely do better than the PCT if you're down that way. For my money, the country up along the Great Western Divide is pretty special-high, remote, no people, and drop dead beautiful; AAAAND you can drink the water right from the lakes and streams when you get off trail!
I just had another idea. If Dave felt like it, it would be easy to take a left(west) on the Colby Pass trail and follow your route from then on. It would add a few miles, but what the hey, definitely a change of scenery. Where would he exit if he did that?Dec 21, 2007 at 4:50 pm #1413427
I've only been living back in California for 2 1/2 years but have actually been to 95% of everything mentioned here.
You can't go wrong with any of the places mentioned.
Just make sure you bring a GPS as for some of these trails have 5-10 people on them a year so almost 100% of the traffic is from animals.
This means that you will have some trails branch off in some locations that are about the same size as the main trail.
I had a tough time getting over Colby Pass and actually went to the right of the pass, (where a few animals had gone that way) instead of the left and had a nice 60 degree but slide down a very steep slope.
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